Infidelity Causes Excruciating Pain

First off, this is long so I apologize. I need counseling, but until that happens I'm going to vent here. I hope to get support and advice in this group, and to hopefully return the favor.

I don't believe my husband will cheat again. Since I found out about the affairs, he has allowed me to have his passwords to his emails, social networking sites, and has allowed me to keep a key-logger on his computer. He gave up his friends who were ex's, gave up his best guy friend whom he thought was a bad influence on him, and has changed his phone number. He only goes out when I go with him, and has gave up drinking which was another culprit. He has shown great remorse, and has made amazing changes. It is obvious he doesn't want to lose me, loves me dearly, and will do whatever it takes to save our marriage.

Yet the pain and the anger remains in my heart. It has messed up my head. I feel crazy sometimes; crazy with being over-controlling, jealous, insecure, and with the unknown answers to questions that keep nagging at me. Why did he do this to me? What was wrong with me? Why couldn't he just love me? Who else did he cheat on me with? How far did he go with his cheating?

We have been together for three years, and have been married for almost 9 months. I found out 3 months ago that he has been cheating on me throughout the entire relationship. I have been worried throughout the entire relationship, because although he showed me so much love; he was always super protective of his privacy. Protective over what he did on the internet mainly. He would tell me how he didn't want me on any of his accounts when I would try to give him passwords to my accounts. He figured if I allowed him to have mine, then I would want his.

I'm talking things like Netflix so that he could watch an instant view movie, and he would make me put in my password instead of me telling him, which I thought was ridiculous. We have been living with and dating one another for 3 years, and married for several months, what's the big deal? So I told him he could have all my passwords, that I didn't care and had nothing to hide, and he refused. That was my first clue that something was seriously wrong.

I hacked into his computer when he went out with his best friend one night. I assumed I would find nothing, and that he was just a privacy freak. By the next morning I had all of his passwords. I started to investigate things off Facebook first, on a different computer away from my husbands in another room. Right away I caught him messaging a chick in real-time. I found out that the night previously when he went out with his best guy friend, that he actually met up with his ex girlfriend for drinks. In the messages he was making our marriage out to be a sham. They were also talking about old times when they use to sleep together. Anyway to make a long story short, he was trying to meet with her again, and she was telling him yes but only as friends since he was married. All he said to that was "I understand, besides I don't want to make you cry anymore". This was 7 months after we got married.

I go into his email next, and find naked pictures of his ex's that they have been sending to his cell phone during our entire relationship. They all had dates on them, and they all showed that they were sent to his email from his cell phone. We are talking like four different girls at least. The last pic was sent 3 months before we got married.

Then I find a saved messenger conversation that he had with yet another ex of his, that was asking her to sleep with him again. He told her sex with her in the past was awesome, and that he couldn't stand me or my kids, and that he didn't want to be stuck with me. He told her he was saving up money to move out on me. She told him no because he was in a relationship and that it wasn't right under the circumstances. He told her "well if you change your mind and want some of me in you let me know". This was 8 months before our marriage.

Anyway I jumped the gun, because if I had just waited it out a few more days, I'm sure the key-logger would have picked up on proof that he was sleeping with or had slept with someone else. I was so angry and hurt though, that I left the house and cried to him about it over the phone, because I couldn't face him; couldn't face this stranger that I thought I knew. That gave him enough time to get rid of further evidence I'm sure.

So I found out that he was trying to sleep with an ex, met up with another ex behind my back for drinks, and that he was getting naked pics from multiple ex's for the past three years. Nowhere did I find that he actually slept with another woman. So I wonder if he did, and feel in my heart that he must have, because he was obviously trying to, but that it just didn't get saved into his FB, messenger, or email messages. He has only admitted to things that I have found out, and that I have provided him with the proof of that knowledge. The only other thing he has admitted to me was that he watches porn every chance he gets. When I leave the house, take a bath, or just exit our room for awhile, he is watching porn.

Regardless, all of what I did find out was still cheating. It's so much harder, because I know he loved me. He swept me off my feet from the start. He has always been so romantic, charming, and sweet. Always saying he loved me countless times a day, singing to me, writing things to me, telling me how beautiful I was, how lucky he was to have me, and so on. Now he does all those things still, but now allows me to keep him on a tight leash as well, and he's happy to do so, because he doesn't want to lose me. So it's so hard to deal with this, to figure out why he did this to me. At least with most affairs it can be explained... there wasn't enough sex from the wife, he didn't love his wife, they didn't get along, they didn't see one another enough, and so on. We didn't have any of those problems.

His answers for why he cheated was "I don't know why." "It was just stupid." "I don't know what was going through my mind." "I never actually did anything; I just wanted to see if they actually would send pics, would say yes to sex, would meet up with me; it was a power trip nothing more." "It had nothing to do with you; you didn't do anything to cause this". I know that there has to be a more legit reason to why he did this that he won't say. think one thing is evident, that he was a sex addict.

Anyway, I try not to bring it up too much because he'll sometimes ask with annoyance "Are we going to still talk about this years down the road?" I am trying to work it out because I love him dearly, can't imagine life without him, and believe in him that he will never do this again. Again though, I don't know how to forgive him for the past, as I can't seem to move on, and I imagine the hurt will only get worse. I'm guessing that we will need marriage counseling eventually.

So how do I get past the hurt? How do people move past something like this? I almost always feel like crying, and I'll have meltdowns when I do burst out into hysterical sobbing. My broken heart can be compared to the pain of losing a loved one, which happened in a sense.

Heart Attack: First, I am sorry for your pain. You are right, it feels like the genuine loss of a loved one. Now, let's be real... I think you should assume that he had sex with all the girls. Get tested for STD's, and require the same of him. If he refuses, you have some hard decisions to make.

Keeping him on a short leash is going to exhaust you long before it exhausts him. There is not a short enough leash to keep him from cheating.

The fact that he says he doesn't know why he did it is a concern, but only if he isn't willing to explore why. He needs to know why he did it, and so do you. I am reading a book: Intimacy After Infidelity. It is by Solomon and Teagno. I am recognizing my own husband's patterns and my reaction to them. I am also recognizing my patterns in the marriage, and how it may have contributed. The book in no way excuses infidelity. It just helps the reader understand and take measures to prevent it again. A short leash is not one of the suggestions.

heartattack,

Most of the time I feel just like you. My gf of 7 years cheated on me and even though are trying to work things out right now.... My head wont stop with the nagging questions and almost anything will trigger my anxiety. its horrible, its a horrible way to live. I love her but Im just scared of her doing it again. I wish i could just turn my brain off sometimes, and like you I feel like im going crazy.

sometimes it pisses me off that Im going through all this and she doesnt have to deal with any axiety or hurt like I'm dealing with. Like your husband she gets annoyed when I bring up anything about the affair and she gets really mad. Like for her... she just wants to forget it even happened and move on, I wish I could... I want to... I wish there was a way to just STOP.

The grieving process is the same as losing someone because, well, we lost a person we thought we knew, and the person we thought we knew isnt there any longer. it does get better though...Time is making things better for me though... Time, little by little, is making me stronger.

I wish you the best and hope to hear from more ppl because I need the same advice as you do. Keep your head up and I'm here if you wanna chat!

@Soft: We both did get tested, and nothing came of it. I'm sure he didn't use a condom, and I'm sure I just got lucky those whores didn't have any STDS, and he's lucky none of the sluts got pregnant. You're right, keeping him on a leash sucks, but I fear that if I don't, we may as well break up, because I do not trust him. So really what I'm saying here is I either have an emotionally exhausting life with him, or we break up and I lose someone I love so deeply that I can't imagine going on. There's no easy path here. I HOPE that eventually the leash will get a little longer & the hurt will get a little less as the years go on. As far as why he did it; I believe he has a mental illness that contributes to his sexual promiscuity.

@Eris: It pisses me off too that my husband just 'got away with it'. He is probably so **** happy about that, that he got to have his fun & got to still keep his wife. My Husband= 1 point ; Me= 0. It's so easy for him to move on, but god forbid that I have a heart, and care too much to just shrug it off and say "Eh". I wish I could just turn it off too, to just forget about what happened. That's the problem, because how can I ever forgive if I can't forget?

Emotional Heart Attack: One of the things that I have read consistently in my quickly growing Infidelity Library is that keeping him on a short leash is the surest way to make him cheat again. The harder you pull, the more he'll pull away. Kind of human nature, I suppose. There are steps you can take to rebuild trust, and he has to be willing to take those steps, too. I encourage you to get a book about infidelity. The biggest thing seems to be that he must have low self-awareness that he couldn't recognize his bad feelings and then communicate them to you in a loving way. Therapy can teach you both to do this, if he is willing. My husband is not willing, so we will have our divorce in less than 15 days.

@Soft: Sorry to hear that he won't do whatever it takes to save your marriage. I'm doing whatever I can, and my husband is doing whatever he can, because we are married. If we weren't, or if he wasn't trying hard enough to save this marriage, I would have shown him the **** door right off the bat. My control method over my husband right now was also his idea btw. It was his idea to get rid of his best friend. It was his idea to quit drinking. It was his idea to change his phone number. It was his idea to only go out if I'm with him. All I told him to do was hand over his passwords, and to delete every last one of his ex's off his Facebook, seeing as how it was almost all ex's that he was cheating on me with. This is why people shouldn't be friends with their ex's.

Side Note: I talked to him about it all again just a few hours ago. I don't bring it up too much, because like I stated before, he gets annoyed. The reason I brought it up to him again tonight was because he saw that I joined this group. It made him laugh, and he told me I must be really bored. That really pissed me off. He told me that I am negative, severely depressed, that I need to get on medication, and receive counseling. He told me that I need to stop dwelling on the past, and to only focus on the future, because there is nothing he can do to change what happened. He promises me that what happened will never happen again.

Also while he admits that what he did was heartless and cruel, that he doesn't believe it was cheating, that it was just flirting, and he doesn't believe it was THAT big of a deal for me to behave the way I have been behaving. I'm sorry but texting your ex's to send you naked pics of themselves is cheating. Messaging an ex to ask them if they'd like to have sex again is cheating. Meeting up with an ex for drinks behind the wife's back is cheating. If by some miracle he didn't have sex with another woman while he's been with me, it wasn't for lack of trying!

I’m sorry to hear of your pain, but, and some people might disagree but, take it from a man, he WILL do it again!, so get out as soon as you can…Avoid the years of misery!

I cheated and got caught and swore to God and all that was holly that it wouldn’t happen again but it did, not many men can resist, and most wives don’t even know that the hubbies cheat, and all the locks on his mail and fone won’t work cause he’ll just start new accounts, beleive me once a cheater allways a cheater, once a beater allways a beater…I

I know this won’t make me very popular but it’s a man’s perspective on the subject…I caused so much pain in my life and it never leaves my mind and I’m so sorry for the ones I hurt, but that was years ago and I learned a big lesson, never hurt the ones you love,

Please don’t take this responce in a negative way cause that’s not my intention, I truly hope he is the exception to the rule and you can get past it and go on to live and love the rest of your years together, I’m alone at the age of 57 and that’s not a fun place to be, but it’s my own dam fault…-John

Emotional Heart Attack: I want you to rethink your statement that your husband is doing whatever he can to save the marriage. The thing he IS doing is submitting to the short leash, handing over passwords, and insisting that you be with him at all times. That is like white-knuckling sobriety instead of admitting you are an alchoholic and seeking real treatment with AA or elsewhere. Facebook is not the problem, the ex gfs are not the problem, his phone number is not the problem, drinking is not the problem, and YOU for sure are not the problem.

You go on to say he is annoyed if you bring it up, that YOU need therapy, that his behavior wasn't that big of a deal, and that you need to get over it because he made you a 'promise' that it won't happen again. I'm sorry, but that is total bullshit. He is ignoring the root cause, putting bandaids on it, blaming you, and refusing responsibility. He wants a free pass.

You are probably about as likely to not be a victim of infidelity again as I am if I stay with my husband.

I am not saying your marriage is over. Mine is because my husband has out and out refused to get at the root cause, through therapy or other means. He says over and over again that he felt rejected, but wants to leave it at that. I believe he felt rejected, but his reaction to the rejection was so out of proportion to the problem. There is more to it than rejection. I have also felt rejected at times, but I didn't abandon the family and screw a stranger. So, you can see why I know for certain that his stating the reason (rejection) isn't enough for me to continue in the marriage. There is an underlying cause (lack of communication of feelings BEFORE the fact, lack of appropriate coping skills), and he is not willing to look into that, with or without me. He wants me to do what your husband wants. Understand his reason, get over it, and never bring it up again, take him back with no conditions. Divorce is final August 2 @ 3:15 p.m.

HeartAttack, there are reasons one turns away from their partner instead of turning towards their partner & affairs surely make one look deeper into themselves for answers. Sometimes answers can be found in ones past history, genetic links if applicable, traumatic experiences, so if you have enough strengths somedays more then others that would be a starting point along w/therapy if affordable. Affairs also have alot to do w/the types of relationship role models one has growing up which can determine the types of people a person will surround themselves with. Its alot of combinations to walk through the wreckage of past history but is a way to pull something positive out of the bad past for the future & learn how to not repeat.

My heart goes out to you friend & please keep talking it through till you feel a bit better & built up some of your esteem again....its there & you'll find it.

Soft is correct in that you dont want to be wasting time checking & looking over your shoulder all the time when you can be accomplishing so much more by NOT focusing on HIM but rather focus on YOU.

All my strengths.

April

Hes deflecting from the truth by getting annoyed when it needs to be discussed & talked through for however long it takes you to feel better....thats what relationships are about.

Thanks everyone :) Obviously we both need counseling, not just me. Yeah I'm a complete wreck I admit it. I am now overly paranoid, jealous, depressed, obsessive, and completely insecure. Thanks dearest hubby, because I wasn't before! I didn't let it bother me before that he had women friends, pulled all-nighters without me, and that half the people on his FB were his ex's. I just shrugged it off, because I felt that **** secure about us. Now I get jealous if he does something as trivial as watching porn, and I feel so stupid about it. I don't think there is anything wrong with a guy watching porn, because I assume it's normal behavior... but NOW I have a problem with him doing it, because he cheated on me, so him looking at other naked women throughout the night when this pain is still so fresh bugs the living hell out of me.

I won't tell him though, because I know I'm already being too controlling, and playing the crazy wife card sucks enough as it is. It gets exhausting. I want him to be faithful without me having to keep him faithful. I want him to want it. I can't relate to a person that can be in love with one person, but still have sexual relations with other people. I don't understand???!!! It is enough to drive a person mad. Part of me just wants to drop the chain he is on now, and leave the rest to fate. I just hope that if that day comes where he cheats on me again, that I will be a stronger person than I am now. I didn't want to be a statistic... either having a terrible marriage, or getting a divorce. I thought we were going to beat the odds, that our love was different. Realty sucks :(

Emotional Heart Attack: This is as much about you and what you want and deserve and expect as it is about him having some unmet need. If you continue along the lines of being afraid to tell him how you feel, you are going to get stomped on! Seriously, he is watching porn at night, which hurts your feelings, and you can't tell him that without fear of repercussions? You should be able to tell him it makes you feel insecure, and then negotiate a way to allow him what is probably totally normal behavior without it hurting you. I guess my husband's refusal at counseling, as hurtful as it is, leaves me in almost a better place than those who tell their wives they'll stay, but you'd better never bring up the behavior again. At least I know that my husband isn't going to promise me something he can't/won't deliver. Makes my decision to divorce no less painful, but at least I don't have to pretend all is fine.

@Soft: You're right, in a way you have it better. You never have to worry about him cheating on you again, and you don't have to figure out how the hell you are going to forgive him, and how to trust him again. If my husband cheats on me again, everyone is going to blame me for staying with him, but I feel I have to try. We haven't even been married that long, less than a year, and we just got custody of his son. I want to give it another shot. That doesn't mean I'm not going to change my mind at some point, because it may be something where I can't get past this, but I want to at least try. Regarding the porn: I just don't want to talk to him about the porn thing... yet. I need more advice, but I'm afraid to ask anyone I know. When I went to my cousin for advice, and cried on her shoulder about all that he did, it bought my husband a ticket to getting-his-ass-kicked town. Her, her dad, and her brother beat the crap out of him one night when we came over to hang out after all of this happened. I didn't ask for them to do anything like that, and they knew we were trying to make it work. I was shocked and appalled that grown adults did this. I can't talk to anyone close, because they are going to hate my husband, and that's not what I want. I'm pretty much relying on online support forums until I can find a counselor.

Emotional: It is nobody's business if you give your marriage one more chance or ten. You keep at it as long as YOU want to, not as long as your circle of friends think is right. They will want to protect you and may say or do ****** things, in hopes that it helps you. Beating on your husband is one example. Highly out of line, but they probably thought they were doing it to help you.

Emotional heart attack,

I'm also really bothered that my gf likes to watch porn and stuff.... It makes me extremely insecure when before it didnt... I was going to bring it up but... I dont wanna make drama over something stupid. I mean yeah it bothers me and it makes me feel extremely insecure but bringing it up is only going to make me sounds even more psycho LOL!

Im working things out and here is my plan...

Ive forgiven her..... but I havent forgotten completely yet. I'm getting there... ironically, i feel like shes the only one that can make me completely forget what happened with her love and stuff. Im forgiving and forgetting and Im moving past that because I realize that I want to be with her, that I fucked up too, and in a way the cheating was part my fault. I thought I would have to put her on a leash but I am not doing that.... in fact im giving her all the freedom that she might want... and I'm going to have my freedom was well... Im trying to learn to be really independent and not rely my happiness completely in her. I want to be happy and having to watch over my shoulder is only going to make me go crazy... Ive been there... done that... not a good thing. She's been gone for 3 months now and shell be back in a little over a month. I don't know what shes doing, i dont know if shes talking to people online, I have no clue what shes up to except i know shes still watching porn. it bothered me but blAH ... im moving past that. All i know is that she texts me everyday... she tells me she loves me, and she wants to be with me. Thats all I know... and im ok with that. Once she gets back Im sure things are going to be a bit different but I hope to be able to continue in the path ive taken.. Bringing little things up wont do anything good for the relationship its only going to make more drama and sometimes (ive come to learn now) not talking about its a better way to deal with it. Its crossed my mind about her cheaitng on me again of course, thats my fear, but I just hope that if that happens again the second time around I'll be stronger and in a better place to handle it better...

I honestly believe well be ok... as long as I dont make drama over it. My aunt and uncle got through it and theyre doing just fine. Theyre a strong couple and are happy. They went to counceling though... so Im concidering councelling too. I hope things work for you heart, I really do.

Oh dear EmotionalHeartAttack, I (carefully) read every words you wrote, and the corresponded replies... Though our (home) situation is different, our (heart) conditions are the alike... And because your eloquence helped express my own broken-heartedness fluidly... your long long long posts are in fact mutually beneficial: They helped you "vent" and in turn, me "weigh."...

I was born a problem solver and trained as a solution provider... Yet in these twilight hours of a dazzling dusk... I merely feel dumb and numb, foul and foolish...

If each of us here could cast all the hurt to the wind...

EmotionalHeartAttack,

Don't ever feel stupid for trying to work things out. If you believe there is hope, hopefully there is.

I was worried about having a similar situation as you had with your family, I didn't want them to turn against my husband because if things do work out, I don't want their relationship with him to be strained and ruined forever. So I have been very selective about who I have told. I only told my sister and my cousin about my situation. While I know it is for the greater good, it is also difficult not having a large support system around me right now. But then I remember that it is quality, not quantity and the two of them are good for me.

Anyway, I apologize for rambling about myself, but keep fighting the good fight. Good luck with this. I am with you, as I am going through a similar experience.

@soft: Yes, I think my uncle and cousins were trying to help, and that they were hoping that I would leave him after they hurt him. All it did was ruin my relationship with my family. Now that they beat him up I can't go to anymore family get-togethers, because they will be there, and they have already made themselves look like heroes to the rest of the family, my husband a complete ****, and me a loser for being with him. Not to mention I lost my friendship with all of them, and we all use to be very close, and it just adds to the heartbreak I'm already trying to endure.

@Eris: Sorry about your girlfriend. I hope that she stays faithful while she is away from you, and when she comes back to you, so that you two can be happy. I have been keeping it bottled up inside since the incident with my husband getting beat up. I've only been expressing myself online in a couple different support groups. I still feel I need counseling though.

@louisianian: You sound like me with how I feel. I hope that you can get through your own emotional pain, and mental angst during this terrible time in your life. It feels good to be around people with similar problems, because no one else can truly understand unless they are currently going through it; even if they've been through it before. They can remember how bad it felt, but they can no longer feel how bad it felt, so they are usually of only little help and comfort... at least in my own experience.

@peeg: I'm done with sharing with people in my own circle of friends and family. I just don't trust anyone. My husband and my cousin were my two best friends. He betrayed me with his cheating, and she betrayed me by beating him up with her brother and father. If I can't trust my best friends, then who can I truly trust? I'm just going to vent on here, and eventually to a counselor.

EmotionalHeartAttack,

I sympathise and feel your pain. My husband had an affair with my best friend. And our other two closest friends knew and didn't tell me. When I found out they told me that they didn't tell me in order to protect *her*. I know the feeling of having no one. But look around, you might find out that there are other people who can support you and be there for you.

At the very least, the people here can. I've only been on this site for a week or so but already it has been hugely helpful.

<3peeg

@peeg: I agree, this site is very helpful, and I look forward to it each day, because it is all I have right now. My first love before my husband (kid's dad) slept with three of my 'friends'. It really shows that you can't really trust anyone. I just HOPE instead of TRUST now. If someone betrays me, then I will just have to deal with it like I always have. One of those friends I rebuilt my friendship with, because she was also family and the one that my kids and I were closest too. The others I never talked to again, even though one of them I grew up with.